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Post by Mitch Kupchak on Aug 31, 2010 22:46:58 GMT
the rumour already had it last season: www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2010/01/10/lakers_rumour/www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/lakers_deal_for_raptors_star_has_FbaSSsePPGi1gsgGsfES9Mnow after some days of adjusting the deal is there: C/C BYNUM 82 $12,500,000 $13,700,000 $14,900,000 $16,100,000SG/PG Shannon BROWN 73 $1,990,000 $2,198,950 SF/PF Luke WALTON 73 $4,840,000 $5,260,000 $5,680,000 $6,100,000 C/C DJ MBENGA $959,111 1st'11 (unprotected) total: $20,289,111 for bosh 89 $15,779,912 $17,149,244hedo 78 $9,000,000 $9,800,000 $10,600,000 $11,400,000 $12,000,000 total: $24,779,912 i accept. hedo contract is long and the 12 millions in 5 years hurt, but thats the price for bosh...bosh is the better player now, Bynum alredy a real top 5 Center and only 21 years old... Gasol is now my starting C...great first trade of the league
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Post by Blake Bowman on Aug 31, 2010 23:45:14 GMT
This trade sucks for LA IMO...
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 31, 2010 23:47:50 GMT
Bowman how does this trade suck for LA like really Gasol,Bosh,Artest,Kobe I'm pretty sure that a championship team right there.. but this trade doesn't work I will need to add 2 more players
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Post by Willis Reed on Aug 31, 2010 23:52:14 GMT
I think it's a great trade for LAL.
C - Pau Gasol PF - Chris Bosh SF - Ron Artest SG - Kobe Bryant PG - Derek Fisher 6 - Lamar Odom 7 - Hedo Turkoglu
That lineup is crazy. Maybe move Lamar or Hedo in a trade for a really good point guard and thats game over for Dynasty Lite.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Aug 31, 2010 23:56:49 GMT
Bowman how does this trade suck for LA like really Gasol,Bosh,Artest,Kobe I'm pretty sure that a championship team right there.. but this trade doesn't work I will need to add 2 more players Well sin you asked... Bynum is a great player who will most likely become an NBA Legend for sure, Brown is a good player, and the upside Bosh Yay! unless he declines his PO then you have a shitty contract, being Turk, and you lose great things... I wouldn't care dude I'm not on the Trade Comm. it's just an opinion, and your team would get better, soo if your complaining, then why? EDIT: What I mean, cause after I read that I knew it sounded douchey, was why not trade Pau, + if Raptors would have accepted of course.
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Post by Jay Triano on Sept 1, 2010 0:21:06 GMT
Bynum and NBA legend? Slow down there son.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Sept 1, 2010 0:43:48 GMT
Damn! I always miss word things, I mean really good All Star Center...
DUH
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Post by Seth Guttman on Sept 1, 2010 1:48:49 GMT
Wow trading opened already? I don't even have my salary thread yet 0_O
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 1, 2010 14:52:40 GMT
This is the kind of trade that kills teams like Toronto. It just is. Toronto's been in charge less than 24 hours and already he's shipping the most promising, valuable PF in the league for Andrew Bynum and meaty filler.
I don't know how LAL (ATL in D5) manages to pull off trades like these, I really don't. Some Jedi mind trick or something.
I don't care if Bosh is leaving Toronto at the end of the season, you have all of that time to ship him for much more than you're getting here. There's no guarantee that Bosh will leave Toronto either, we operate OSFA differently and there's every chance you can build a team around him instead of just pissing away your talent pool.
Just on player value involved, I reject.
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Post by Mitch Kupchak on Sept 1, 2010 15:34:15 GMT
kills a team? -- Bynum is 21? How can he kill a team??? Tell me 4 Centers who are better than him...btw he has a great 4 year contract... -- Long contracts kill teams...Hedo earns 12 millions in 5 years pissing away your talent pool-- gettin rid of a future FA, a shitty contract and gettin a first rounder in return, aswell as a Centerstar, who can dominate the future. Not to mention Shannon Brown has upsaide as he is 22 and Walton is a good role player So this is a very fair trade - the trade committee should be there to reject trades just for security IF it doesnt work financielly or the deal is totally loopsided...with Bynum 82 every GM in the world can get a 89 player with reached peak in return... (not to mention that Bynum fits better with shooting-Bargnani than bosh) so this deal isnt special and even was discussed a lot last february - with the expeption the lakers would have never taken hedo in return...
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Post by Willis Reed on Sept 1, 2010 16:02:03 GMT
I think if the Raps are good then Bosh would stay in Toronto, moving him should probably be done 15 or 20 games into our 29 game season based on record. He always said he would stay with the Raps if they were winning, whether that was rhetoric or not I don't know but he loved the city of Toronto regardless... just not that Toronto was in Canada. It is a fairly realistic trade if the Raptors suck because Bryan Colangelo did look to move Bosh at the trade deadline but never pulled the trigger since he figured if Bosh did leave then he would at least get something in a sign and trade (and he did). Since we don't have sign and trades then moving Bosh is not a bad move I think it is just far too early to assume he will leave.
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Post by Josh Barber on Sept 1, 2010 18:05:37 GMT
I'm not sure if I'm on the committee or not, but I agree with Boston 100%. This leaves the Raptors severely crippled. Their best player would become Andrew Bynum, the 5th best player on his real life team. Bynum has not shown that he can be a dominant post presence, but is more of a role-player. He is just not the type of player that you trade someone like Bosh for.
As if that wasn't enough, Toronto is also giving up Hedo Turkoglu. Turk was unmotivated to play for the Raptors in real life, but that does not mean his career or abilities have diminished. I expect him to average near 20 ppg this season as the first option for the Suns, and I think him alone should be valuable enough to get Andrew Bynum.
Therefore, to wrap it up, I think this trade would be fair if the two team's took out Chris Bosh. It seems like a much better deal could be gotten for Bosh and that this move is just a drastic heave by Toronto much too early into the league.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Sept 1, 2010 18:14:07 GMT
The Reason I'm doing this is because yeah I know what Chris Bosh is worth and as a Raptor fan I did want the Raptors to pull the trigger on a trade for him Bosh is a guy you can't build a team around as much as you guys say you can you can't best his a number 2 guy but you have to find that guy that can play with him. I'm also looking ahead if where doing ratings like real life I don't really think Bosh will be the same Bosh on the Heat like he was on the Raptors with 2 other big names there there is no way Bosh gets 20 ppgs at all Bynum works for me I move him to Center and Move Bargnani to his real position in PF. and I get rid of a bad deal in Hedo I also get a great player who I have been high on for years in Brown who I think will make a good beach player I don't see this as a bad trade at all for me Bosh is not a guy I want to make a team around I always look for the best and I think this was the best deal out there for me.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Sept 1, 2010 18:54:22 GMT
kills a team? -- Bynum is 21? How can he kill a team??? Tell me 4 Centers who are better than him...btw he has a great 4 year contract... Dwight Howard Yao Ming Horford LBJ (He can play any position)
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Post by Chris Webber on Sept 1, 2010 19:02:37 GMT
Andrew Bynum is not a top five center in the league. Your trading a top ten statistical player for someone who can barely finish a season without a major injury. You getting no proven players here, just the hope that Bynum turns out to be as good as every says he can be. He's your franchise player and your trading him for basically prospects.
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